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Thursday, September 10, 2015

More on RAW and 'Babylon 5'

The other day I relayed an anecdote from Ian "Cat" Vincent about how RAW had supposedly written a script for the Babylon 5 TV show.

It now appears the story got garbled a little bit; apparently Wilson wrote a script which he felt might have helped inspire the series.

Nick Helweg-Larsen wrote to me to point to a bit in Robert Anton Wilson Explains Everything (Or Old Bob Exposes His Ignorance, a long audio recording. About 48 minutes into the first track, Wilson says:

"I met a lot of celebrities, including the head of the Producers Guild, who encouraged me to write an outline for a pilot for a TV series, without telling me you usually get paid for that. He said 'I'll see if I can sell it,' so I didn't get paid a damn thing for it, and it never went on the air, anyway. But something rather like it showed up two years later. Well,  just slightly like it. Mine was set on a space colony between the Earth and the Moon.  Then along came along Babylon 5, which is set on a space colony much further out. But the idea of living in a space colony rather than on a planet's face seemed very interesting to me. I think it's probably the future. I don't think we're going to colonize other planets. You climb out of a galaxy well, why climb back down into another gravity well?" [And then further discussion about colonies in space.]

Interesting to be sure, but I don't know what to make of it. Wilson seems more interested in talking about space colonies than pursuing his alleged grievance.

Does anyone else have information?

I guess the name of the show conforms with the Law of Fives.


James Veitch said...

It's doubtful that Straczynski had ever seen or heard of RAW's script. JMS referenced Babylon 5 all the way back to an episode he wrote of the cartoon Captain Power. He had been trying to develop a sf idea, when he realized he could take his micro- and macro- ideas, place them on a space station, and let it go. He said the epiphany came to him in the shower and he ran out still dripping wet to get the details down.

JMS has been a science fiction fan for a long time with full knowledge of the genre and its history. The major arc of B5 was EE "Doc" Smith, with references and tributes to Bester, Asimov, Saberhagen, Moorcock, and Lovecraft scattered throughout. This hasn't changed, as the Netflix show he made with the Wachowskis is an obvious love letter to Ted Sturgeon.

Anonymous said...

Captain Power was live action for me. I don't remember a cartoon. Just live post-metal war corny 80's action, with special VHS-enabled plastic electronic weapons. I have the first tape, still. Right next to The Three Stooges on my shelf. "more interested in talking about space colonies than pursuing his alleged grievance"
I think that is called forbearance.

RAW was acknowledging a lesson in the game of scribe warfare? Giving away his 'finer'st unpolished ideas on a pot smoker is apt to do. What would Heinlein do? It breaches his rules somewhat?

RAW was a broadcaster of ideas, and could not contain himself to the rules of writing for profit. It is easy enough to convince yourself that you've had an original idea. I get them in the shower too.

Vampirates. I'm 99.99999999999% sure that someone somewhere has transgressed phonics, pop-culture, history writ-large, and followed up in semi-edited English on this one. I don't even want to Google it.

I advanced to working on Van Pirates, suburban family theme. Broader audience. Easier animation. Just kidding. I didn't take a shower when I came up with these broad farout cultural mishmash concepts...

James Veitch said...

Sorry, I confused Captain Planet for Captain Power. Too many superheroic and kids sfnal captains running around. Who can keep them straight?