Friday, July 6, 2012

Andrew Crawshaw's ILLUMINATUS! bibliography

Andrew Crawshaw has done a series of postings on one of his blogs, Drafts, which seek to provide a bibliography of ILLUMINATUS! A very interesting effort.

One of Mr. Crawshaw's entries has a footnote referring to Ishmael Reed as "aka Robert Anton Wilson." Kidding, I think, but it inspired me to look up Reed's Mumbo Jumbo on Wikipedia, and it sounds like an amazing novel and very possibly an influence on ILLUMINATUS! I will have to hunt up a copy.




12 comments:

Jesse said...

MUMBO JUMBO is a great book. I don't think it had a direct influence on ILLUMINATUS: There is an interview in which Wilson comments on the curious coincidence that Reed's book, ILLUMINATUS, and GRAVITY'S RAINBOW were all written at about the same time independently of one another (though ILLUMINATUS was published a few years later, allowing Wilson & Shea to insert a quote from Reed's book into their trilogy).

I have also read an interview with Reed in which he mentions Wilson sending him a membership in the Bavarian Illuminati. Except it says "Savarian Illuminati," which might be Reed misremembering the name and might just be a typo.

Eric Wagner said...

I loved Mumbo Jumbo and many of Reed's other books. Pynchon mentions Reed's influence in Gravity's Rainbow.

michael said...

I like Reed a lot.

The interview where RAW mentions Reed and Illuminatus and Gravity's Rainbow is the Conspiracy Digest interview #2 in Illuminati Papers:

CD: Was black writer Ishmael Reed's _Mumbo Jumbo_the inspiration for _Illuminatus!_? Could you give us your reaction to Mumbo Jumbo?

RAW: I didn't read Mumbo Jumbo until about three years after Illuminatus! was finished. The same is true of Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow. The astonishing resemblances between those three books are coincidence, or synchronicity, or Higher Intelligence (take your pick). I love everything Ishmael Reed writes, and I once sent him an official Discordian certificate making him a Pope in the Legion of Dynamic Discord. -p.44 in my olde edition

Jesse said...
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Jesse said...

And Reed's interview where he mentions receiving the certificate is...not online in full, but the moment can be found here.

Andrew Crawshaw said...

I will at some point finish it off so that there are the appedices aswell.

Mumbo-Jumbo is a great book, his riffing style is funny. the thing I liked about Mumbo-Jumbo is also that it had a very odd Bibliography at the back. if you like Mumb-jumbo, check out Freelance pallbearers, another good, and slightly surreal book.

Michael, have you got an online Link for that interview?

supergee said...

Tell Crawshaw that Johann Kasper Schmidt wrote as Max Stirner, rather than Kerry Thornley. I refuse to prove that I'm not a robot.

Andrew Crawshaw said...

Actually kerry wendell thornley did write the book, stirner just plagiarised it in anticipation.

Andrew Crawshaw said...

Michael you posted:

"CD: Was black writer Ishmael Reed's _Mumbo Jumbo_the inspiration for _Illuminatus!_? Could you give us your reaction to Mumbo Jumbo?

RAW: I didn't read Mumbo Jumbo until about three years after Illuminatus! was finished. The same is true of Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow. The astonishing resemblances between those three books are coincidence, or synchronicity, or Higher Intelligence (take your pick). I love everything Ishmael Reed writes, and I once sent him an official Discordian certificate making him a Pope in the Legion of Dynamic Discord. -p.44 in my olde edition"

I thought that "When Atlantis Rules the world" was a lot like mumbo-jumbo. and Wilson said, in an interview with neal wilgus that “When Atlantis Ruled the Earth” is 99% Shea." I wonder if shae read the book before and was inspired by it.

Andrew Crawshaw said...

Actually scratch my above comment, Mumbo-Jumbo was clearly written after Illuminatus! trilogy: just synronicity.

Unknown said...

Being a few years late to this conversation, if you believe in forward-rolling linear time, I have to ask if any of you know where the above-mentioned Illuminatus! bibliography, or one like it, might be found. Thanks in advance.

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