tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post83022745617260858..comments2024-03-28T22:15:25.617-07:00Comments on RAWIllumination.net: Prometheus Rising exercise and discussion group, Week Thirteen Cleveland Okie (Tom Jackson)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07810736442596736041noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-84258731717374760432021-01-11T12:54:56.561-08:002021-01-11T12:54:56.561-08:00Finally, I have found my first quarter. It was at ...Finally, I have found my first quarter. It was at the gym at the leg-curl machine. It has been roughly a month, starting PR again, reading these posts, and looking. I was going to ask the group - what do they understand by 'imagine vividly' per the instructions. I only ask because I was in a sensory deprivation tank earlier yesterday before going to the gym and had plenty of time to vividly imagine my quarter - I'll grant you I saw one that was stamped in 1985, but the found one was stamped 2020, so it didn't have an eagle on the back. But hey, I'll take what I can get. Agustin Reyesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-22366089640163236402021-01-07T04:14:11.670-08:002021-01-07T04:14:11.670-08:00I think that in rastafari beliefs, Zion represents...I think that in rastafari beliefs, Zion represents the opposite of Babylon, a promised land of sorts, rid of all evils (greed etc). The name has been used again in those Matrix movies, Zion being the good guys' hideout from the machines, the place where free humans live (a fair amount of them having dreadlocks, if I recall correctly).<br />I am not utterly familiar with the rastafari religion, and have no idea why there would be a connection with Judaism, but Zion also is the promised land in this context. Rather than to bring a political discussion in here, I will link you to this page:<br />https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zionism<br /><br />It is interesting for me to try and see why one wouldn't pick up quarters because "it is undignified to stoop to pick up change." To be honest, this wouldn't even have occured to me. I assume that if, instead of a quarter, there is 10 dollars on the ground, you wouldn't be undignified anymore but "lucky". (many people would still consider 10 dollars as "change", and give it away as tips) So where is the line in this seemingly arbitrary societal rule ?<br /><br />Thinking about it, it is no wonder that Bob Wilson's ideas would resonate so much in me, because it seems that I have mostly failed at imprinting correctly what falls into the 4th circuit moral conditioning. When I was a teenager, I remember realizing that humans mostly are playing games, the rules of which to this day I still find baffling. I have a sort of innate skepticism because fundamentally, I do not understand much at what is going on around me.<br /><br />When nothing makes sense, the answer might be fighting back with higher absurdity. I hope we will see more healthy Discordianism popping up here and there in the next few years.BFHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-51838703355957661082021-01-06T08:19:27.381-08:002021-01-06T08:19:27.381-08:00A couple of thoughts on the OP: the magick of find...A couple of thoughts on the OP: the magick of finding quarters worked when you served something (possibly) greater than yourself - you wouldn't have ended up in the spot except for your daughter. It seems a good idea not to break social norms in some situations for the sake of the magick experiment. Probably nothing drastic would have happened picking up the quarters there, but you never know, why risk it? A more extreme example: if one saw a quarter on the ground near a police officer, it probably shouldn't get picked up until they leave especially if you incarnated as a black man. Magick stays occult for a reason.<br /><br />There must exist different meanings/uses of the label Zion. I currently work on a reggae flavored music project called Zion Collective, one of the songs sings about "holy Mount Zion." I don't think any of the members or any of the song subjects concerns Judaism or anti-Judaism. I believe it has more to do with Rasta belief systems. I don't know what the political meaning of Zionism represents.Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-86871732343079575112021-01-05T16:19:27.944-08:002021-01-05T16:19:27.944-08:00Just a quick update. No quarter yet, but a nickel ...Just a quick update. No quarter yet, but a nickel here a dime there. A nice synchronicity in listening to an interview with Diana Walsh Pasulka about her book "American Cosmic". Our man Jacques Vallee featured heavily in a wild romp through ufo culture. RAW would approve.littletompainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14049529888443970011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-17328671625563555532021-01-05T07:19:46.341-08:002021-01-05T07:19:46.341-08:00Interesting indeed. Upon rereading this first chap...Interesting indeed. Upon rereading this first chapter of PR, I remember thinking that nowadays, RAW could never get away with writing this :<br />"Similarly, Feminists are able to believe that all men, including the starving wretches who live and sleep on the streets, are exploiting all women, including the Queen of England."<br /><br />He sure has a point, but political correctness, as well as changing times, would have such a sentence making 2020's people jump in horror.<br />Thing is, there is never a good excuse for being anti-semitic (anti-zionism being much more specific), but there are many different types of Feminists and putting them all in the same basket isn't going to get us anywhere. But regardless of how well-intentioned Feminists might be (for instance in places where they fight for free agency over their lives and body), the main problem tends to be the same than with most -isms : a clear lack of ability to take a step back and see the greater picture in order to be able to question itself.<br /><br />So Gregory, when you write "I’m not sure my Prover works as well anymore as my Thinker is constantly confused. I wish I had more convictions", maybe I misunderstand but, it seems to me that you actually succeeded at understanding that one reality tunnel is just as experientially valid as another (if not necessarily as moral or ethic).<br /><br />But indeed, if your Thinker thinks "what s the point of having any convictions since they are not really realities but just opinions disguising as realities, and I am not my opinions anyway", your Prover might become kind of at loss about what exactly it has to prove.<br />Would that be a potential first step into Chapel Perilous ? BFHNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-22504128588787111682021-01-04T07:30:33.609-08:002021-01-04T07:30:33.609-08:00Interesting post. I think of the line from "R...Interesting post. I think of the line from "Rock and Roll High School": "Pizza, sounds good."<br /><br />Perhaps if you think "my Thinker is constantly confused" your Prover will prove it.Eric Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312033917401203598noreply@blogger.com