tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post4993460994791743762..comments2024-03-28T07:55:50.510-07:00Comments on RAWIllumination.net: Week 37, Illuminatus online reading groupCleveland Okie (Tom Jackson)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07810736442596736041noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-25607835443203989992014-11-12T08:52:51.832-08:002014-11-12T08:52:51.832-08:00On pg. 376 when Saul says, "I'm on the ot...On pg. 376 when Saul says, "I'm on the other side," it made me think of the Doors' "Break on through to the other side."Eric Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312033917401203598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-44903892756751850712014-11-10T20:10:28.176-08:002014-11-10T20:10:28.176-08:00Also, the final pages wherein Sal is 'unifying...Also, the final pages wherein Sal is 'unifying forces' with Rebecca brings up the interesting point of Discordian sacred sex. It isnt something I have thought of before, but Wilson's conceptualization of Discordianism framed sexuality as a sacred act which held within it the possibility to transform oneself. Funny, tt is wholly missing from his outline of Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness in Prometheus Rising...JCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11273943256416418690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-25047241874959162852014-11-10T19:48:02.406-08:002014-11-10T19:48:02.406-08:00denounced those, such as Brion Gysin, who believed...denounced those, such as Brion Gysin, who believed it. p. 371:<br />The reference to Gysin's belief about the origins of the white race in a nuclear explosion that took place in the Gobi desert can be found in Burroughs' 'Why Can We Not Begin Anew?' and his novel, The Ticket that Exploded. It is hard to under-appreciate the influence of Gysin's mythoscape on Burroughs...And it is great to see that Wilson (presumably) had a strong sense of Gysin's work.JCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11273943256416418690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-75369315424985051852014-11-08T22:45:50.051-08:002014-11-08T22:45:50.051-08:00For some reason I've always pictured Rebecca G...For some reason I've always pictured Rebecca Goodman as a beautiful African-American woman. Going from a prostitute to the object of Saul's adoration provides a living demonstration, in the novel, of the transformation from WHORE to White Hero.<br /><br />Saul repeats Rebecca 3 times at the end of the chapter. Rebecca represents beauty so qabalistically this suggests the path of Zayin which connects the 3rd and 6th Sephira and the Lovers tarot card which seems apropos to the scene. Yet, it's more than that if one reads the description of that card in "The Book of Thoth."<br /><br />p.370 Simon Moon places Illuminati International at 34 East 68th Street, New York City. On page 374 in the first paragraph we see three instances of a 3 and 4 beside each other starting with Pi - 3.1417 - a three and four with .1 in between. I didn't get any particular read on whay this 3, 4 combination until I realized that the third tarot atu is The Empress while the fourth one is The Emperor.<br />Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-8429544926443561172014-11-06T02:27:14.632-08:002014-11-06T02:27:14.632-08:00It says in the notes that Rebecca is Irish.It says in the notes that Rebecca is Irish.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09185407812378193683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-70612932612508053332014-11-05T22:42:40.428-08:002014-11-05T22:42:40.428-08:00I've only had a chance to read a few pages, bu...I've only had a chance to read a few pages, but have already noticed a few coincidences with this weeks reading. It starts with Harold Canvera, a drugged, paranoid right wing accountant who "performs educational services" for W.H.O.R.E.S. - White Heros Opposing Red Extremists, a "splinter of God's Lightening.". We soon get told the Illuminati do what they do "so the International Bankers a certain minority group (in italics) can run everything."<br /><br />This section ends with Saul Goodman making love to his wife Rebecca saying her name three times at the very end. This seems the exact opposite of paranoia though Saul appears a little paranoid or at least wary. Saul and Rebecca are Jewish - "a certain minority group" while Rebecca being a black woman belongs to 3 minority groups. I don't remember if she converted to Judaism, but her name is Hebrew and "represents beauty in the Bible."A very appropriate ending to this chapter.<br /><br />W.H.O.R.E.S. appears another alchemical union of opposites, and also similar to Joyce's 'Buildung supra buildung. White against red suggests to me the Biblical parting of the Red Sea which appears alchemical code for learning how to internally dissipate anger. White Heros and Red Extremists also = the Red Lion and White Eagle of traditional alchemy.Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.com