tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post3394345249513703174..comments2024-03-27T18:12:22.027-07:00Comments on RAWIllumination.net: Week 33, Illuminatus online reading groupCleveland Okie (Tom Jackson)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07810736442596736041noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-15412797916615201922014-10-13T09:20:42.767-07:002014-10-13T09:20:42.767-07:00I've wondered who the author could be, before....I've wondered who the author could be, before. Hesse seems to fit alot of criteria, there is something in the book elsewhere that made me think it might be someone else though. Here is a list of Nobel Prize winning laureates including which country they are from.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_in_Literature<br />Pg. 324 - I love Bingo being part of the secret teachings.<br />Pg. 325 - "You are diving, but she is sinking" I think this may be a "real" quote a friend mentioned it to me recently when talking about Joyce's daughter and a mental hospital in England. as Jung put it to Joyce, trying to convince him that his daughter was in grave danger, and ... And Jung answered, "Yes, Jimmie, but you dive to the bottom of the river. She is sinking.".<br />http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/welch/to_duncan.html<br />Pg. 328 - The "miracles of Mons" interest me.<br />Pg. 334 - 2323 Lake Shore Drive (LSD)fuzzbuddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17106070724735052653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-13346822650713210862014-10-07T20:52:13.907-07:002014-10-07T20:52:13.907-07:00On Hesse not being mentioned by name: another poss...On Hesse not being mentioned by name: another possibility is that, when this was written, Hesse was extremely popular on university campuses, partly for his writings and partly for his anti-war stance.<br /><br />P. 327: "my most famous work,..." : probably <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppenwolf_%28novel%29" rel="nofollow"><i>Steppenwolf</i></a>. But see the Wikipedia article on the novel's initial negative reception. <br /><br />P. 328: The Yeats quote is from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Coming_%28poem%29" rel="nofollow">"The Second Coming" </a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-2520844340454036392014-10-07T15:54:07.886-07:002014-10-07T15:54:07.886-07:00I'll take a guess as to why Hesse's name i...I'll take a guess as to why Hesse's name isn't identified. In the Tales to the Tribe course RAW introduced the idea of presence by absence - where someone is conspicuously not in the story but is actually a central element of the plot. Someone used Joyce's story "The Dead" as an example, if memory serves. So maybe it's something akin or related to that idea?<br /><br />All or most of the character's names seem chosen for some kind of significance. I believe they left the name out to obscure the significance of Hesse's name - "to bury the dog deeper" as RAW quotes Gurdjieff in CTI. They also printed everything from Liber Oz verbatim, but left out the title. I view that as a similarly intentional omission. To me this gives the book a lot of depth.<br /><br />Lovecraft and his mythos seems appropriate in this section. I like how his fiction is considered real in their fiction. <br /><br />For a brief period at the end of 1992 - 1993 I edited a small publication called the Evolutionary Rag. It started out as a few page desktop publishing then expanded to a small newspaper size when I moved to California and had two print runs. I solicited RAW for a piece for the first bigger issue and he sent something very short, postcard size, but steeped in Lovecraft references. I believe it was sent from Miskatonic U. for example. I'll have to dig it up.Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-61220204333760300482014-10-07T15:16:38.889-07:002014-10-07T15:16:38.889-07:00I like the references to Artaud and Joyce on page ...I like the references to Artaud and Joyce on page 325. Bob also talks about Artaud in Cosmic Trigger.<br /><br />I love the scene with Lovecraft. I visited Providence in 1988 and visited the Shunned House, Lovecraft's grave, and a number of other Lovecraft sites.<br /><br />I enjoyed Phil Hine's book on Lovecraft.Eric Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312033917401203598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-4838353232724605112014-10-06T10:48:41.870-07:002014-10-06T10:48:41.870-07:00https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/agustincordes...https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/agustincordes/h-p-lovecrafts-the-case-of-charles-dexter-wardfuzzbuddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17106070724735052653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-65475580118875700122014-10-06T10:25:47.057-07:002014-10-06T10:25:47.057-07:00Thank you.Thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09185407812378193683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-75179881114834032622014-10-06T07:25:13.906-07:002014-10-06T07:25:13.906-07:00By the way, Arthur, happy birthday.
By the way, Arthur, happy birthday.<br />Cleveland Okie (Tom Jackson)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07810736442596736041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-16753149180340027812014-10-06T07:06:35.117-07:002014-10-06T07:06:35.117-07:00Yes. Cool suggestion. Yes. Cool suggestion. Cleveland Okie (Tom Jackson)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07810736442596736041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5887440039323868659.post-38159444017360942802014-10-06T03:09:42.996-07:002014-10-06T03:09:42.996-07:00I would guess that the Boston Irish suspect is Jos...I would guess that the Boston Irish suspect is Joseph Kennedy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09185407812378193683noreply@blogger.com